1 00:00:00,260 --> 00:00:12,150 [Music] 2 00:00:17,529 --> 00:00:15,520 so hi everyone I would like to thank the 3 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:17,539 organizers for giving me the opportunity 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:20,030 to present you today so my name is Moran 5 00:00:25,839 --> 00:00:21,530 Frankel painter I'm a NASA postdoctoral 6 00:00:28,599 --> 00:00:25,849 fellow working with dr. HUD dr. Williams 7 00:00:30,429 --> 00:00:28,609 and dr. Grover's here at Georgia Tech 8 00:00:32,409 --> 00:00:30,439 and in the Center for chemical evolution 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:32,419 and today I will tell you about a 10 00:00:37,090 --> 00:00:35,330 reversible polymerization of periodic 11 00:00:39,970 --> 00:00:37,100 deficit cap that they will define what 12 00:00:43,990 --> 00:00:39,980 these are which allows selection of 13 00:00:46,750 --> 00:00:44,000 stable structures so as we know and as 14 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:46,760 mentioned we know from prebiotic model 15 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:49,059 actions and from meteorite composition 16 00:00:55,510 --> 00:00:52,879 that actually else today's the building 17 00:00:57,069 --> 00:00:55,520 blocks of today's biopolymers can be 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:57,079 formed from these model periodic 19 00:01:01,090 --> 00:00:58,850 reactions and we can find these in 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:01,100 meteorites but something really 21 00:01:07,390 --> 00:01:04,850 important is that we in the central 22 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:07,400 chemical revolution we explore other 23 00:01:14,109 --> 00:01:10,970 product backbones for these by commerce 24 00:01:15,580 --> 00:01:14,119 with you today and we know that in 25 00:01:18,130 --> 00:01:15,590 addition to these building blocks that 26 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:18,140 we see in today's biology we actually 27 00:01:23,890 --> 00:01:21,439 had very similar building blocks that 28 00:01:27,010 --> 00:01:23,900 could have been you know incorporated 29 00:01:30,310 --> 00:01:27,020 into proto backbones of these polymers 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:30,320 in the pre run earth so they need are 31 00:01:35,139 --> 00:01:33,770 talked about what were possible a proto 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:35,149 on nucleobases 33 00:01:40,660 --> 00:01:37,850 and water we'll be talking about today 34 00:01:43,539 --> 00:01:40,670 will be focus on today is what we think 35 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:43,549 were the proto factoid backbones 36 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:45,680 on a prebiotic earth and today we know 37 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:48,369 there's these urges change of immunity 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:52,790 but we think that we had some 39 00:01:58,030 --> 00:01:54,770 incorporation of other building blocks 40 00:01:59,859 --> 00:01:58,040 into them so just in general like to 41 00:02:02,130 --> 00:01:59,869 mention in the center of a chemical 42 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:02,140 volition what is our approach for 43 00:02:09,460 --> 00:02:06,070 polymerization of these polymers and 44 00:02:11,740 --> 00:02:09,470 back you mentioned and david i weight 45 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:11,750 cycles so just a brief overview 46 00:02:15,820 --> 00:02:13,910 Becky you said you like the Sun we also 47 00:02:18,070 --> 00:02:15,830 like the sun's though as a driving force 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:18,080 for polymerization we know that all of 49 00:02:21,550 --> 00:02:19,010 today's bye 50 00:02:23,649 --> 00:02:21,560 are a result of condensation reaction so 51 00:02:25,780 --> 00:02:23,659 we lose water and that's exactly what we 52 00:02:29,559 --> 00:02:25,790 would want to mimic by these dry weight 53 00:02:32,140 --> 00:02:29,569 cycles so we can think about these let's 54 00:02:34,509 --> 00:02:32,150 say seasons on the previous curve we had 55 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:34,519 some solutions with some monomers that 56 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:38,769 first got we we had a dry hot face 57 00:02:44,289 --> 00:02:41,769 whatever vibrated that caused the 58 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:44,299 condensation or polymerization of these 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:46,250 monomers and then you can think about 60 00:02:51,309 --> 00:02:49,090 earth you got cold and we had some water 61 00:02:55,119 --> 00:02:51,319 coming and then we can have some 62 00:02:57,940 --> 00:02:55,129 structures and also some hydrolysis or 63 00:03:01,030 --> 00:02:57,950 degradation of non-structured polymers 64 00:03:02,710 --> 00:03:01,040 that will our some recycling and we can 65 00:03:05,830 --> 00:03:02,720 think about the cycle going on and on 66 00:03:11,229 --> 00:03:05,840 wet/dry cycles to drive selection of 67 00:03:13,150 --> 00:03:11,239 some stable moments the outline of the 68 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:13,160 talk today is so I'm gonna start with 69 00:03:18,460 --> 00:03:15,920 some challenges with contemporary 70 00:03:20,949 --> 00:03:18,470 proteins or peptides in terms of or in 71 00:03:22,839 --> 00:03:20,959 life chemical abortion I will talk about 72 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:22,849 what our deficit bath I doesn't know 73 00:03:27,940 --> 00:03:26,090 Trinity of bath day bathroom and I will 74 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:27,950 also show you some selection of stable 75 00:03:34,210 --> 00:03:31,519 structures in a complex mixture so let's 76 00:03:36,940 --> 00:03:34,220 start when we think about the pros of 77 00:03:39,909 --> 00:03:36,950 peptides we know that fact that today I 78 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:39,919 just I'm changed of amino acids but we 79 00:03:44,860 --> 00:03:41,630 also know it's pretty hard to form the 80 00:03:48,339 --> 00:03:44,870 amide bond between between the amino 81 00:03:51,580 --> 00:03:48,349 acids this is another thermodynamically 82 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:51,590 favored reaction and we know it came 83 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:53,930 before and if you use really high energy 84 00:03:58,150 --> 00:03:56,510 molecules or it will apply some really 85 00:04:00,190 --> 00:03:58,160 high temperature high pressure we can 86 00:04:02,860 --> 00:04:00,200 form that but then we'll run into 87 00:04:04,449 --> 00:04:02,870 another problem which is once we have 88 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:04,459 this type oxide it can go another 89 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:07,010 condensation into a psychic by heat up 90 00:04:13,180 --> 00:04:09,290 to Terry's name which is really stable 91 00:04:14,860 --> 00:04:13,190 and in a way it's gonna many times we'll 92 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:14,870 call it a sink we're gonna stop 93 00:04:20,529 --> 00:04:16,690 polymerization into further 94 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:20,539 elongate a change another problem is 95 00:04:26,770 --> 00:04:24,560 that reversibility so if we want to 96 00:04:28,540 --> 00:04:26,780 drive selection in our system we think 97 00:04:30,730 --> 00:04:28,550 that so we can think about the periodic 98 00:04:32,540 --> 00:04:30,740 step is really messy of having these 99 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:32,550 really 100 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:38,130 structure Spacely one sample and if we 101 00:04:44,210 --> 00:04:41,970 made this peptide and we cannot break 102 00:04:45,950 --> 00:04:44,220 them so the amide bond in addition to 103 00:04:48,350 --> 00:04:45,960 being hard to make it's also hard to 104 00:04:49,730 --> 00:04:48,360 break so we can follow these pathways 105 00:04:51,860 --> 00:04:49,740 but then they we're kind of stuck with 106 00:04:54,650 --> 00:04:51,870 what we've had so how can we have so 107 00:04:56,660 --> 00:04:54,660 action if we think about really trying 108 00:04:58,970 --> 00:04:56,670 out different sequences and give us some 109 00:05:02,030 --> 00:04:58,980 stable structures so we're gonna be able 110 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:02,040 to be stuck we're gonna be able to not 111 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:04,310 move forward and we'll just be 112 00:05:08,990 --> 00:05:06,930 maintaining with this certain sequence 113 00:05:13,610 --> 00:05:09,000 that we had so we will not have a 114 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:13,620 disability so when with the search for a 115 00:05:17,780 --> 00:05:15,930 total polypeptide backbone I mentioned 116 00:05:21,260 --> 00:05:17,790 that in addition to the building blocks 117 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:21,270 of today's talk ties the amino acids we 118 00:05:27,470 --> 00:05:25,050 had other very similar molecules in this 119 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:27,480 case I'm gonna talk about hydroxy acids 120 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:30,240 so in these molecules instead of the 121 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:34,560 amine we have the alcohol away and we 122 00:05:40,190 --> 00:05:36,270 know that they result from the same 123 00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:40,200 synthesis so we had hydroxy acid in a 124 00:05:47,810 --> 00:05:43,620 really similar abundance to amino acids 125 00:05:51,470 --> 00:05:47,820 and so I will throughout the lecture I 126 00:05:54,530 --> 00:05:51,480 will just out of simplicity amino acids 127 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:54,540 will be labeled as these blue circles 128 00:06:02,330 --> 00:05:56,930 and I mean the Drakh cepheid's will be 129 00:06:05,420 --> 00:06:02,340 represented as these red circles as I 130 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:05,430 mentioned amino acids it's really hard 131 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:08,130 to polymerize I mean axis into these am 132 00:06:14,210 --> 00:06:12,210 i fun but what we do know is that if you 133 00:06:17,030 --> 00:06:14,220 take hydroxy acid and you just dry them 134 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:17,040 so you drive water off it's very easy to 135 00:06:23,690 --> 00:06:19,290 form the polymer hydroxy acid which is 136 00:06:27,130 --> 00:06:23,700 called a polyester through an ester bond 137 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:27,140 right here so that's really easy so what 138 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:31,650 dr. Krishnamoorthy suggested in the in 139 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:33,810 the as part of the research in the 140 00:06:38,660 --> 00:06:36,000 Center for chemicals relation is what 141 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:38,670 will happen if you take these both amino 142 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:42,180 anti-drug see assets together so what 143 00:06:46,129 --> 00:06:44,610 happens is will actually get copolymers 144 00:06:48,379 --> 00:06:46,139 of both 145 00:06:53,059 --> 00:06:48,389 you know and I'd rocks the acid they are 146 00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:53,069 called ducks if a tide and briefly I 147 00:06:59,119 --> 00:06:55,680 will not go over the mechanism but I'll 148 00:07:01,610 --> 00:06:59,129 just say that once we form the Astra 149 00:07:03,769 --> 00:07:01,620 bond between I track the acid then the 150 00:07:07,219 --> 00:07:03,779 amino acid or the amine can attack and 151 00:07:10,429 --> 00:07:07,229 replace and we get a replacement of the 152 00:07:15,619 --> 00:07:10,439 ester with an amide bond so we're making 153 00:07:19,100 --> 00:07:15,629 that Zapata in support of potential 154 00:07:21,890 --> 00:07:19,110 world for adaptive baptized in origins 155 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:21,900 of life we know that even today we have 156 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:24,210 duck soup that is in nature they mostly 157 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:26,400 serve as antibiotics but they also have 158 00:07:30,619 --> 00:07:28,080 different functions this one for 159 00:07:33,379 --> 00:07:30,629 instance is called Melina my same it's a 160 00:07:35,420 --> 00:07:33,389 cyclic to their capacity backside and it 161 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:35,430 is it functions as a potassium 162 00:07:40,219 --> 00:07:37,770 transporter that facilitates the 163 00:07:44,809 --> 00:07:40,229 movement of potassium ions the lipid 164 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:44,819 membrane so as I mentioned that see 165 00:07:49,909 --> 00:07:47,039 peptides they are readily formed under 166 00:07:51,469 --> 00:07:49,919 model prebiotic Gretchen so we just we 167 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:51,479 can just dry it together I mean on a 168 00:07:57,559 --> 00:07:55,199 drug the acid and we can get them but 169 00:08:00,379 --> 00:07:57,569 the problem is that it's not so simple 170 00:08:03,409 --> 00:08:00,389 so if you just take these monomers we 171 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:03,419 actually get a very complex mixture of 172 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:07,050 deficit off site and my researchable 173 00:08:10,939 --> 00:08:09,210 focuses on understanding better 174 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:10,949 understanding of these gaps across sites 175 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:12,930 and if you have this complex mixture 176 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:15,330 then how can really study the properties 177 00:08:21,679 --> 00:08:18,240 of that see baptize in terms of 178 00:08:25,389 --> 00:08:21,689 polymerization assembly this assembly so 179 00:08:28,579 --> 00:08:25,399 a way to make it more simple is really 180 00:08:30,529 --> 00:08:28,589 knowing the different stability of the 181 00:08:32,839 --> 00:08:30,539 ester versus their Maybach sophie really 182 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:32,849 rely on chemistry and we know that 183 00:08:37,790 --> 00:08:35,610 actually the after bond so left to de to 184 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:37,800 the red circles the ester bonds are 185 00:08:41,870 --> 00:08:39,599 really more susceptible to being 186 00:08:44,420 --> 00:08:41,880 hydrolyzed in the west face so when we 187 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:44,430 have water so it will we're gonna break 188 00:08:47,210 --> 00:08:46,649 all these bonds and maintain the amide 189 00:08:49,639 --> 00:08:47,220 bonds 190 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:49,649 we're gonna be left with fat guys like 191 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:51,360 this and we know that this is what 192 00:08:57,949 --> 00:08:54,690 happens what happens in the system so to 193 00:08:59,930 --> 00:08:57,959 simplify the system what I did in my 194 00:09:03,860 --> 00:08:59,940 research is synthesizing these 195 00:09:07,250 --> 00:09:03,870 baptize which have just one hydroxy acid 196 00:09:10,430 --> 00:09:07,260 12i and me nothing and I'll show you one 197 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:10,440 example so this is glycolic acid alanine 198 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:13,710 so glycolic acid it's a red blue 199 00:09:18,020 --> 00:09:16,200 molecule so we have the Ajax es in 200 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:18,030 analog of the lysine that's like our 201 00:09:23,210 --> 00:09:20,670 Kassadin alanine and then if we take 202 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:23,220 this molecule and we just dry so we 203 00:09:28,250 --> 00:09:25,680 drive water off we try and hit it our 204 00:09:33,070 --> 00:09:28,260 expectation is that it will form an 205 00:09:35,660 --> 00:09:33,080 ester bond between the two units and 206 00:09:38,930 --> 00:09:35,670 that's exactly what happens so here you 207 00:09:41,780 --> 00:09:38,940 can see an HPLC analysis separation on a 208 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:41,790 15 that's based on hydrophobicity you 209 00:09:47,390 --> 00:09:45,270 see absorbance a 200 meters that's gonna 210 00:09:50,180 --> 00:09:47,400 give us the absorbance of the 211 00:09:53,930 --> 00:09:50,190 Estrin amide bonds in the system over a 212 00:09:56,060 --> 00:09:53,940 tension time so the shorter the 213 00:09:59,270 --> 00:09:56,070 retention time the more hydrophilic the 214 00:10:01,310 --> 00:09:59,280 compound is so as time goes by we'll see 215 00:10:04,340 --> 00:10:01,320 the longer species which are more 216 00:10:08,510 --> 00:10:04,350 hydrophobic you can see over drying time 217 00:10:10,970 --> 00:10:08,520 this is at 65 degrees Celsius that we 218 00:10:13,130 --> 00:10:10,980 start to form these we start to stitch 219 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:13,140 these units together and it's really 220 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:14,550 nice because everything that we do 221 00:10:19,370 --> 00:10:17,160 really is forming these extra bonds and 222 00:10:25,180 --> 00:10:19,380 what we're making is a new backbone 223 00:10:30,110 --> 00:10:27,740 then we ask are we gonna get some 224 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:30,120 structures once we polymerize this 225 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:33,570 peptide so when we start with a glycolic 226 00:10:38,420 --> 00:10:36,330 acid alanine these properties are shown 227 00:10:41,690 --> 00:10:38,430 in the scanning am right here scanning 228 00:10:44,030 --> 00:10:41,700 electron microscopy these these samples 229 00:10:47,570 --> 00:10:44,040 or this path lights are really oily like 230 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:47,580 in nature but once we put a polymer 231 00:10:52,850 --> 00:10:50,210 either once we dry them in addition to 232 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:52,860 seeing the polymers we also start seeing 233 00:10:57,860 --> 00:10:55,290 some structures formed with gates these 234 00:11:00,740 --> 00:10:57,870 fibrils and we think that what happens 235 00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:00,750 is that once we took these two glycolic 236 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:03,390 acid on in and we polymerize it we think 237 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:05,100 that we're mimicking a really well-known 238 00:11:10,340 --> 00:11:08,130 motif in biology which is the glycine 239 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:10,350 alanine repeat motif from silk fibrian's 240 00:11:15,699 --> 00:11:12,800 in which they form the glycine earlier 241 00:11:17,710 --> 00:11:15,709 form these nice Bereshit structures so 242 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:17,720 we think that once we polymer the 243 00:11:23,259 --> 00:11:20,690 peptide some portion of it can form 244 00:11:28,269 --> 00:11:23,269 these fibrils similar to the glycine 245 00:11:30,940 --> 00:11:28,279 alanine in film the next question is can 246 00:11:32,290 --> 00:11:30,950 we go back so we have the structure 247 00:11:34,389 --> 00:11:32,300 information we have the polymerization 248 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:34,399 that I told you reversibility is a 249 00:11:39,759 --> 00:11:37,490 really important issue so can we go back 250 00:11:42,550 --> 00:11:39,769 and hydrolyze it and go back to the 251 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:42,560 starting material the answer is yes we 252 00:11:47,110 --> 00:11:45,170 can so if we take the preformed 253 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:47,120 oligomers so now we have many ester 254 00:11:53,500 --> 00:11:50,450 bonds you can see incubation in water as 255 00:11:57,610 --> 00:11:53,510 65 degrees so we can actually go from a 256 00:11:58,960 --> 00:11:57,620 distribution of oligomers to a shift 257 00:12:02,680 --> 00:11:58,970 towards the lower molecular weight 258 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:02,690 species so actually the gradation and I 259 00:12:08,050 --> 00:12:05,360 want to say that the degradation is 260 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:08,060 again just off the ester bonds so left 261 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:10,970 to the red molecule so we're really we 262 00:12:15,250 --> 00:12:13,730 have this unit in this case our hydroxy 263 00:12:19,019 --> 00:12:15,260 amino acid that means being stitched 264 00:12:24,449 --> 00:12:19,029 together when we draw it and it's been 265 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:24,459 degraded as a unit when we hydrolyze it 266 00:12:30,190 --> 00:12:27,680 so we had reversibility and the next 267 00:12:32,139 --> 00:12:30,200 step was making the system a bit more 268 00:12:34,660 --> 00:12:32,149 complicated and see what happens when we 269 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:34,670 have mixtures of of these shortstack 270 00:12:39,850 --> 00:12:37,730 tight and in collaboration with Martin 271 00:12:42,430 --> 00:12:39,860 solana is a grad students in the HUD lab 272 00:12:44,590 --> 00:12:42,440 so I showed you glycolic acid alanine 273 00:12:47,470 --> 00:12:44,600 but Martin synthesized other molecules 274 00:12:50,769 --> 00:12:47,480 and glycolic do I seem like acid alanine 275 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:50,779 lactic acid glycine lactic acid is the 276 00:12:56,170 --> 00:12:53,570 hydroxy as an analogue of alanine so we 277 00:12:59,290 --> 00:12:56,180 just have the methyl group here in the 278 00:13:01,530 --> 00:12:59,300 force of the glycolic acid and what we 279 00:13:04,449 --> 00:13:01,540 wanted to see is what happens if we 280 00:13:06,819 --> 00:13:04,459 going to make a complicated mixture but 281 00:13:08,889 --> 00:13:06,829 first we just had to make sure that all 282 00:13:10,930 --> 00:13:08,899 of these packets polymerize when we dry 283 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:10,940 them so you see like glycolic acid I 284 00:13:17,019 --> 00:13:14,560 mean you see the different polymers 285 00:13:18,970 --> 00:13:17,029 perhaps I did mention two means two 286 00:13:21,430 --> 00:13:18,980 units of glycolic acid I mean and so on 287 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:21,440 so all of these packages are forming 288 00:13:26,190 --> 00:13:25,910 polymers and when we looked at the big 289 00:13:29,820 --> 00:13:26,200 red 290 00:13:33,150 --> 00:13:29,830 of these peptides as deficit bastards we 291 00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:33,160 know that the the ones with the lactic 292 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:34,720 acid so with the metal here are much 293 00:13:39,780 --> 00:13:37,090 more stable so we said let's take the 294 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:39,790 one one was electric I said one with 295 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:42,010 glycolic I said put them together and 296 00:13:46,050 --> 00:13:44,560 then see if we have selection once we 297 00:13:48,060 --> 00:13:46,060 have the gradation in the West face 298 00:13:50,250 --> 00:13:48,070 towards the lactic acid containing one 299 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:50,260 so we took glycolysis the glides near 300 00:13:56,330 --> 00:13:52,810 lactic acid I mean we dried them so in 301 00:14:00,840 --> 00:13:56,340 foreign polymers and then we hydrolyze 302 00:14:03,810 --> 00:14:00,850 after some drying time we got polymers 303 00:14:05,820 --> 00:14:03,820 so you can see in red polymers of 304 00:14:08,970 --> 00:14:05,830 glycolic of the glycine so that's two 305 00:14:10,950 --> 00:14:08,980 three four of glycolic acid glycine some 306 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:10,960 homo polymers of lactic acid all in 307 00:14:17,250 --> 00:14:14,920 green right here and then we also got 308 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:17,260 copolymer is composed of both glycolic 309 00:14:23,970 --> 00:14:20,730 acid glycine and lactic acid alanine 310 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:23,980 like these ones now once we are 311 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:26,770 hydrolyzed these ducts it back they that 312 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:28,930 are formed we see that after hydrolysis 313 00:14:33,450 --> 00:14:31,570 or after degradation time in water we 314 00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:33,460 see that the ones that survive the most 315 00:14:37,770 --> 00:14:34,840 and the ones that are enriched with 316 00:14:39,330 --> 00:14:37,780 lactic acid so we were able to show some 317 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:39,340 collection based on chemical stability 318 00:14:45,270 --> 00:14:43,450 of deficit baptize in your system and I 319 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:45,280 hope I convinced you today that dr. Graf 320 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:47,710 aid can be a plausible part of the 321 00:14:52,610 --> 00:14:50,320 peptide backbone first we're able to 322 00:14:55,380 --> 00:14:52,620 polymerize the FC package very readily 323 00:14:57,900 --> 00:14:55,390 we can even see some structures formed 324 00:15:00,060 --> 00:14:57,910 by them and last really importantly 325 00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:00,070 we're also able to recycle and really 326 00:15:04,650 --> 00:15:02,620 sample this huge asked sequence 327 00:15:07,650 --> 00:15:04,660 structural space so we'll be able to 328 00:15:09,510 --> 00:15:07,660 hopefully get some sequences this will 329 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:09,520 give us rights to structures that might 330 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:14,590 be functional and I don't have thanks 331 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:16,570 for moving forward but I'd love to talk 332 00:15:23,580 --> 00:15:18,850 to you if you have any questions please 333 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:23,590 go to see Martinez Martinez poster today 334 00:15:28,340 --> 00:15:26,170 because Marty and I have a library of 335 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:28,350 fact ideas are tough they emphasized by 336 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:30,090 Martine and 337 00:15:35,580 --> 00:15:33,610 we explore some interesting features on 338 00:15:39,570 --> 00:15:35,590 these making the system more complicated 339 00:15:40,050 --> 00:15:39,580 looking for some selection so without 340 00:15:43,650 --> 00:15:40,060 like 341 00:15:46,890 --> 00:15:43,660 think the piace I worked with dr. HOD 342 00:15:51,270 --> 00:15:46,900 dr. Williamson dr. Glover I would like 343 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:51,280 to thank my lab members especially 344 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:54,370 Martin worth work have mentioned the 345 00:16:12,330 --> 00:15:56,410 funding agencies and thank you for 346 00:16:16,140 --> 00:16:12,340 listening questions so I was wondering 347 00:16:17,340 --> 00:16:16,150 about the sort of the additional and and 348 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:17,350 the reversibility and how the 349 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:20,130 reversibility is really important but 350 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:23,650 sort of the the enrichment process and 351 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:28,030 just kind of how you know you want 352 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:29,770 reversibility but you also want some 353 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:31,930 sort of progress if it were and so 354 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:33,010 what's what's sort of the balance 355 00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:35,770 between those two processes yes so we 356 00:16:40,530 --> 00:16:37,750 really need the reversibility part is 357 00:16:42,390 --> 00:16:40,540 really important for trying out 358 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:42,400 different sequences but the premise is 359 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:46,570 that if we have some sequences that can 360 00:16:50,340 --> 00:16:48,100 fold they can from some stable 361 00:16:52,530 --> 00:16:50,350 structures and then they will be stable 362 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:52,540 even though if they couldn't it could be 363 00:16:56,910 --> 00:16:54,190 a reversible for immunization we think 364 00:16:58,950 --> 00:16:56,920 that if we have some structures or if we 365 00:17:01,140 --> 00:16:58,960 have a co-equal have binding to a 366 00:17:03,570 --> 00:17:01,150 cofactor for instance so we have some 367 00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:03,580 ways to stabilize the structure one so 368 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:05,140 the ones that are not functional not 369 00:17:10,980 --> 00:17:08,250 structured they will be the grade and 370 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:10,990 put back recycled into the prebiotic 371 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:12,880 soup and then we can build some more and 372 00:17:18,660 --> 00:17:15,250 turn restore some that's the Baptizer 373 00:17:25,380 --> 00:17:18,670 more favorable okay great Thanks other 374 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:25,390 questions yes so sort of piggybacking on 375 00:17:29,220 --> 00:17:27,490 that idea of stabilizing the structure 376 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:29,230 have you thought about while I'm sure 377 00:17:34,010 --> 00:17:31,510 you thought about but do you have any 378 00:17:38,340 --> 00:17:34,020 plans to do things with like different 379 00:17:39,930 --> 00:17:38,350 like clays or sediment or other 380 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:39,940 cofactors present those kinds of 381 00:17:46,220 --> 00:17:43,630 experiments yes definitely direction 382 00:17:48,660 --> 00:17:46,230 that we take we want to be able to 383 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:48,670 select based on structure on the 384 00:18:05,159 --> 00:18:01,930 a slightly silly question why the why 385 00:18:07,330 --> 00:18:05,169 starting specifically from the dimer 386 00:18:09,159 --> 00:18:07,340 starting points rather than just like a 387 00:18:11,169 --> 00:18:09,169 mixture of the monomer is that just to 388 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:11,179 sort of get things going faster or make 389 00:18:18,820 --> 00:18:13,250 the products larger or something more 390 00:18:20,830 --> 00:18:18,830 yes so we find out no no that we had a 391 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:20,840 lot of time for a chemical of volition 392 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:22,490 but we kind of want to speed up the 393 00:18:27,610 --> 00:18:25,280 process and see and be able to speed up 394 00:18:30,190 --> 00:18:27,620 things so we think that because we know 395 00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:30,200 the chemistry so we know that we can 396 00:18:34,029 --> 00:18:31,940 make these peptides with a drug see an 397 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:34,039 amino acid we know that they will be 398 00:18:40,539 --> 00:18:36,650 enriched after a wet cycle after some 399 00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:40,549 heating time we want to kind of just 400 00:18:45,159 --> 00:18:42,559 make it more simple so we'll be able to 401 00:18:47,049 --> 00:18:45,169 see things and not working with at this 402 00:18:48,850 --> 00:18:47,059 point with a complicated mixture that 403 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:48,860 will be just they're just harder to 404 00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:51,650 analyze and so gain some insights from 405 00:18:58,779 --> 00:18:54,049 them but we just think we just want to 406 00:19:00,610 --> 00:18:58,789 speed up the things to simplify okay